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#137679
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Yo welcome, I hope you find your artist, good luck 🙂

#137678
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That’s very good I see your skills progressing especially in your line work. Keep it up

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mrchen;114632 wrote:
I agree it would be nice if the artist could more calmly discuss the pros and cons of using the clients drawing,

I do however understand that the tattoo shop is not a conventional business, the tattooist is a specialized tradesperson, an artist

he or she has “rights” that other businesses dont have,
they dont have to tattoo anyone
They can pick and choose who they want to tatttoo
When they tattoo, where they tattoo , what they tattoo and how

I do understand as I am sure you do, that someone like Bob Tyrrell is not going to tattoo a four inch round clown face in full color on my right ass cheek for any amount of money.

Hahaha just laughing at the arse cheek part and yes its true the tattoo industry arent a conventional business and pick and choose their customer preferances. There is no law to rejecting to serve people although some feel offended. I agree that tattooing is an art in its own right and is often misunderstood by many about the artistic techniques required to create it.

#127911
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anima;114117 wrote:
fair enough, but to say it’s insulting and then outright refusing someone is just a case of the tattooist putting himself before his customer. when these people walk into a shop with a piece of work the “my way or the highway” attitude IS unprofessional. It’s the same attitude these kids have (that think themselves to be some sort of rockstar) and elder tattooists in the industry carry with them. right out of the gate you have zero idea of the why and what this mean to them. and they are the ones that have to live with the tattoo. It all depends on what you capacity they consider themselves to be in. Are you just the craftsmen to do the work or are you as a consultant to talk them out of what they want into something that’s more of what you want. some people don’t want every piece on them to be another chance for the artist to have a jerk session. sure, talk to them and try to swing them around to some familiar ground for you. share some of your experience, but shutting someone down just because it’s their skin and their choice is far from insulting and is a closed minded view. not to mention poor business.

From my world of business and industry exp, I know what you meant about poor business as in professional ethics/morals. It is definately a decision for an artist to evaluate whether the design is tattooable or not, but lets not assume to say that the artwork ‘isnt’ tattoo friendly, therefore your work would not be rejected. Yes they see crap walk through the door but with exceptions to the rule for tattoo ready artwork. This will also be decided by the artists skill set, training and experience. Any changes made should be discussed professionally and respectfully with a potential client no matter what their professional status or achievements. The accepted tattoo depends on a tattooable design, but does not mean that ‘All’ artwork cannot be done or be radically changed.

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tattoofan91;62420 wrote:
Thanks for your advice it’s just I’m wanting to get something bigger like a british bulldog under my D.O.B or something along those lines for my next tattoo but what happens if I do the same and can’t get it finished… I just don’t like needles at all but the pain didn’t even bother me but I just was sweating and felt really like… ill you could put it I went bright white after the tattoo. How many tattoos on my arms would you say I should have before I consider this? Link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvGEeOR4toc Thanks Vince

Hahaha sorry that made me laugh

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bluey;107655 wrote:
Double bay is an area if you are not a multi multi millionaire it’s off limits, however I can see some very nasty law suits coming their way. I wonder how they will get on if a Rock star, sports star or Movie star with tattoos decides to go there? I guess having a tattoo means you are a criminal, damn that means getting a tattoo must be a crime, I guess that makes it easy for the police.

Good point, definately a human rights issue.

#121872
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I get different responses, but when it came to a little 4 year old girl who saw me in a grocery store. I saw the fear in her eyes as she gripped on to her mother like a freaked out possum. Ive learned to get used to it.
If I see a tattoo that catches my eye I’ll approach them and say “sorry for staring, but I was just admiring your tattoo” they always smile and openly share their story with me. Just manners is all.

#121868
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Haha thanks Al that was a good read. More proof of tattoo snobs and haters. I was at Coogee hotel last year. No-one came near me. If they did, I’d educate them about my cultural background opposed to their stereotyped policy. I also dont drink. Good thread by the way.

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Ddenzik;64300 wrote:
So I recently applied for a job at American Eagle. For those of you who don’t know what that is, its a clothing store that is in most major malls. I had the interview and they said I did great but they couldn’t hire me because of my showing tattoos. I was just shocked that a place like that would discriminate against tattoos. So my response was ” thank you, I don’t want to work somewhere that discriminates against people with tattoos anyways.”

Has anyone else had problems like this before?

I removed my avatar to help answer your question. I wear my Moko with pride and work with international company owners. But working in retail I guess you’re at the mercy of puppet masters ordering you to comb your hair, stand up straight and kiss their arse. I hate em, feel sorry for anyone working in that field even though its your bread and butter. They would never hire me because Ive choosen never to work for them. Therefore I find alternatives and think outside the box.

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kittykat200;106191 wrote:
probably to “synyster ink’s” kitchen… poor kid
Wardy;106201 wrote:
actually pissed myself when i read this haha!
Briscogun;106203 wrote:
This has disaster written all over it.

Well, on the other hand, 3 years from now we’ll get to read a “I Got a Dumb Tattoo on Short Notice For My Grandma and Now I Regret It” thread. So we all have THAT to look forward to…

hahaha
poor kid

#120581
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Like a lamb to the slaughter, where’d he go?

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Rebecca612;105539 wrote:

A friend and I are setting up an exhibition highlighting the subject as to whether tattoos can be classed as art work. We have tattoos ourselves and believe they are a form of artwork but we’re looking for other people’s opinions and their explanations as to why they believe it is art work. Obviously it’s going to be a pretty biased opinion from this thread but any feedback would be brilliant!

Thanks,

Rebecca

Hi,
just wanted to say that art can take any form through whichever medium we choose to work with. I guess tattoo’s would fall under many categories related to art, culture and body adornment. I was raised with the tribal customs and traditions of the New Zealand Maori where the style of tattoo artwork ‘Ta Moko’ is more about identity explaining their rank, tribal family tree, profession and a spiritual connection with the hosts ancestors as well as striking fear in their enemies (a multi-purpose all in one tattoo) :). Your exhibition would be interesting to see the variety of styles and responses. I hope you keep us informed – 😎 thanks

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It will ultimately depend on the artists skill as these gentlemen have mentioned, depending on how big or small you want it to be.
If the design were the size of your hand, the lettering would give most artiists a challenge or one big headache.
Make sure its big enough for the artist to justify it.

and hey guys I’m back

#112812
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Welcome to the forum Megan

#112811
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Welcome to the forum, good to see another artist giving it a go

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