Thanks for that, been looking at there stuff. i have also had Magnum Opus recomended to me, run by Phil Kyle who aparently was on London Ink, missed the series so not got to see him in action yet but will check them out along with your recomendation. Also I have a copy of the first draft of what i want, and if anyone mentions David Beckham i will not be happy. Been wanting this years before he ever got inked.