Tattoo Forum | mugwump | Activity https://www.thetattooforum.com/members/mugwump/activity/ Activity feed for mugwump. Thu, 28 May 2026 07:14:27 +0000 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 9a81ec4240230461f95e5b5175050573 replied to the topic Is it sexy for women to have flower tattoo on breast in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/33120-is-it-sexy-for-women-to-have-flower-tattoo-on-breast/page/2/#post-84483 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:48:23 +0000 Apostle 228;63713 wrote:
haha what? why spell boob “bewb”?? intentionally being silly? or did your spelling lessons in English leave out the female genitalia section?… makes no sense… its not even abbreviated shorter like what most people would spell incorrectly for..

bewb is a south park thing…

I’m surprised that your school taught you…[Read more]

]]> 69bc3300b5311b6735e6a25ccd1dc6fb replied to the topic Is it sexy for women to have flower tattoo on breast in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/33120-is-it-sexy-for-women-to-have-flower-tattoo-on-breast/#post-84258 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:02:30 +0000 There is a very thin line between sexy and scrubber…

ive always wanted to see a smiley face tattooed onto a bewb… nip for a nose, few lines a couple of circles = win!

]]> d6843e4566138a88559014e294b64a6d replied to the topic Tipping on much larger tattos...? in the forum Miami Ink - La Ink http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/miami-ink-la-ink/29075-tipping-on-much-larger-tattos/page/3/#post-84033 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:15:14 +0000 While i didnt tip when i got my tattoo 3 weeks ago, in a fortnight or so once its healed and looking awesome a mate at work who is a photography nut is gunna sort me out with a bunch of awesome pics – I then plan on taking some copies of these with a bottle of champers… a 50 to 80 dollar bottle should show my appreciation… handing over cash…[Read more]

]]> c9acd30ff33648f6a46b5cf2f1d14487 replied to the topic Self Expression or Over Kill? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/33058-self-expression-or-over-kill/#post-83970 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:07:16 +0000 DMoney;63315 wrote:
wow that seems a little harsh…. just because you don’t understand it or appreciate it, doesn’t make it fucked up. To each their own right?

probably… i meant that to be read a little bit more tongue in cheek…

as for not understanding it – what is there to understand?!? he’s not a special unique snowflake! he’s just…[Read more]

]]> b3e4b96a58449e618a0db0a6d925ad84 replied to the topic Self Expression or Over Kill? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/33058-self-expression-or-over-kill/#post-83916 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:04:48 +0000 whats up with getting your eyelids tattooed? that shits fucked up RIGHT there!!! Art or no getting your eyelids tattooed is fucked up… not to mention that other douche that had his eyeballs tattooed blue… that shit was fucked up too… :confused:

]]> e6a7c2bccf05429375d1aaf064621285 replied to the topic First Tattoo in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/33025-first-tattoo-30/#post-83707 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:49:00 +0000 looks good – only criticism that I would said would be to add a little bit more shading to give it more of a 3-d effect…

]]> 35cc0e700dae87893ed7255eb6979f09 replied to the topic My right hand as seen by Joshua Carlton in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/33017-my-right-hand-as-seen-by-joshua-carlton/#post-83706 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:46:12 +0000 ryannnnn;63047 wrote:
fucking wow. very nice work man

+1 – that fucking rocks… the white really makes it pop…

how was the pain on the hand? esp around the knuckles? hurt like a bitch or not too bad?!?

]]> 4caaf0378499de67e57469a877e1f564 replied to the topic Kanji translation? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/33009-kanji-translation/#post-83703 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:36:27 +0000 quick question and please dont take this for trolling, but why the fuck would you want your kids name in kanji? im guessing that you’re not of Asian descent and im also guessing that they’re not either! I guess I have just never understood this fascination

Out of interest, what are their names?

]]> 82e0cacf5e51eba1c25f99727014eb93 replied to the topic I want a big skull on my foream, but colorful. Ideas? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32994-i-want-a-big-skull-on-my-foream-but-colorful-ideas/#post-83543 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:58:44 +0000 Get a paisley skull… that would be cool…

]]> dcd9f645fcc28209ae9f0ae794956a44 replied to the topic What do you think ? tattoo design in the forum Tattoo Flash - Show Your Designs http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-designs/tattoo-flash-show-your-designs/32968-what-do-you-think-tattoo-design/#post-83541 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:50:02 +0000 Like the third one, the perspective on the left horn is wrong… and ditch the flowers and im sold! Great work that shows promise…

]]> 0c48ddbd3482b36fdbf611ec35b91695 replied to the topic help with new tattoo idea (gothic st. michael) in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32983-help-with-new-tattoo-idea-gothic-st-michael/#post-83540 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:45:56 +0000 I think a customised version of that would look killer! esp if you can get Satan to look cool… (well dependant on your standpoint)

Colour or greyscale?

]]> af372d0a6066dbef997e8d56bff0f544 replied to the topic Looking for THIS tattoo..... in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32985-looking-for-this-tattoo/#post-83539 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:44:01 +0000 Is this some magic eye 3-d crazy shit? how the fuck is there a phoenix, tribal of otherwise hidden in that?

]]> aa5aa51a7e02fd6d82cd0876bc44a8f9 replied to the topic Hi, my name is Geoff and I have a tramp stamp. in the forum Introduce Yourself http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/introduce-yourself/32982-hi-my-name-is-geoff-and-i-have-a-tramp-stamp/#post-83478 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:14:14 +0000 Welcome… Do you have to wait long for a promotion so you can sell full conductors?

]]> 35bad4fda62822d511915960fdac8a21 replied to the topic my tattoos! in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/32965-my-tattoos-22/#post-83328 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:36:51 +0000 pretty sweet ink dude… +1 for the use of a curly lead on jimi’s strat… -1 on having it having a tele headstock tho… (thats just the inner guitar nerd in me screaming btw) +50 for having his right hand planted on the fifth fret – home of the A minor pentatonic scale (or 75% of every guitar solo you’ve ever heard! (once again the inner nerd…[Read more]

]]> 278dcc639000040b08eeea641181b243 replied to the topic Non-healing Bamboo Tattoo, help & advice needed for a rookie! in the forum Tattoo Aftercare http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/tattoo-aftercare/32820-non-healing-bamboo-tattoo-help-advice-needed-for-a-rookie/#post-83224 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:16:20 +0000 Easiest way to get photos uploaded – goto http://www.photobucket.com – signup and register… upload the shots from your pc then copy the links (you want the IMG ones)

done!

as for the tattoo – if the doctor doesn’t think its infected then antibiotics arent going to help… (on the other hand if it is infected and you dont take them, well you’ll…[Read more]

]]> 86e48e81d175737eea7c94fe5576c140 replied to the topic ideas for a nerd/geek sleeve with existing tattoo in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32946-ideas-for-a-nerdgeek-sleeve-with-existing-tattoo/#post-83222 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:47:54 +0000 Butterfly;62481 wrote:
wouldn’t making that arm a star wars arm not be geeky enough for you :rolleyes:

Star Wars is just superficially geek – almost like pot is a gateway drug, Star wars is gateway geek…

]]> 094c7e5486c8efae3e6ff7d144c1f1f1 replied to the topic ideas for a nerd/geek sleeve with existing tattoo in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32946-ideas-for-a-nerdgeek-sleeve-with-existing-tattoo/#post-83217 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:50:18 +0000 LOVE IT!!! if you are really keen on a full sleeve then you gotta get a space invader or two – perhaps as smallish filler pieces?

the zelda sprite is good – gotta keep it blocky tho nothing beats 8-bit!!!

]]> 0135336cd17a2f6976cd2ca7d624d52f replied to the topic Tattoo and aftercare in the forum Tattoo Aftercare http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/tattoo-aftercare/31961-tattoo-and-aftercare/#post-83103 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:44:55 +0000 nfi if its swollen – but that look AWESOME!!! love the jhonen vasquez-eqsue figure standing next to it…
you got more pics?!?

Cheers

]]> 2f361511efa442c211ce5b6454626966 replied to the topic hi just wanna ask if this good in colored or black and shaded in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32891-hi-just-wanna-ask-if-this-good-in-colored-or-black-and-shaded/#post-82913 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:55:13 +0000 The whole thing or just the skull / star bit at the top?

I vote coloured… i think if done right the red will really pop

]]> 5c9d7334c16e22b174dfbf715c979bbb replied to the topic Heritage tattoo in the forum Design Requests - Find An Artist http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-designs/design-requests-find-an-artist/32833-heritage-tattoo-2/#post-82859 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:09:07 +0000 How big do you want it and where on your are you going to get it?

I think if you get a reasonably large on (maybe 5 x 5 inch or so) it will look unreal! can get some crazy detail into something like that…

]]> bd94d995b08aa3e5a6db6a09b4b19fed replied to the topic G'Day in the forum Introduce Yourself http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/introduce-yourself/32869-gday-6/#post-82781 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:38:06 +0000 Sleeve looks awesome… love the colours…

welcome aboard – always good to see more aussies 😉

]]> bcbffff0ef936a2a88a3a80e65236b53 replied to the topic Wings - Just how much canvas to use? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32572-wings-just-how-much-canvas-to-use/#post-82764 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:29:39 +0000 DSC02653.jpg

All done – so happy with the result… she gave me the option of going back in a month or so and adding a red wash over the black rays… dunno if im gunna yet, ill wait to see how it heals…

Was my first tatt and i really enjoyed the experience… the pain thing was weird didnt hurt as much as i thought it was going to but the back of the…[Read more]

]]> 97c8d44d97c2d04be41f61c6c7acdfd5 replied to the topic Ideas? in the forum Design Requests - Find An Artist http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-designs/design-requests-find-an-artist/32812-ideas-7/#post-82756 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:01:02 +0000 I agree – wait til youre qualified and working before getting it… a daily reminder of how you dropped out in 2nd year might suck a little…

]]> 7e3c2ac71373b6e30ccda3e879bf3ed2 replied to the topic I need a little help with my idea in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/32848-i-need-a-little-help-with-my-idea/#post-82749 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:28:49 +0000 Zombie Doves… BEST IDEA EVER! cooo brains cooo

]]> e5d87f98b3a41dd9ecb6b3655aa745ba replied to the topic Wings - Just how much canvas to use? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32572-wings-just-how-much-canvas-to-use/#post-82720 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:41:58 +0000 67643541.jpg

its done! above is a shot about 40 mins away from finishing… i cant find my big camera and the phone one has crapped its pants… a mate took about 18 more shots during the inking – having breakfast with him tomorrow to go thru the shots…

ill take some more tomorrow of the finished product…

]]> 0dad56a8441acce7eef3e95dfb31f410 replied to the topic Wings - Just how much canvas to use? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32572-wings-just-how-much-canvas-to-use/#post-82657 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:10:58 +0000 19022010044.jpg

As they say in the movies… Watch this space…

After 3 long weeks from booking in and finishing the design its now t-15 hours and counting… I dropped off some more reference material and had a look a half a dozen different layouts and setups yesterday… little bit of scope creep but nothing too hardcore… I swapped out the wings – If it…[Read more]

]]> a75647a6f5c72c3ec9686484411b8536 replied to the topic Are Celtic's Overdone? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32818-are-celtics-overdone/#post-82635 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:07:38 +0000 There is nothing worse than the shitty execution of a celtic tatt but at the same time there is almost nothing better than truely fucking awesome celtic ink…

Good luck with your challenge…

]]> 0e5767c1ca61f61c50c397ed95eca0a1 replied to the topic want additions to my first tattoo, any ideas? in the forum Tattoo Questions and Experiences http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/tattoo-questions-and-experiences/32841-want-additions-to-my-first-tattoo-any-ideas/#post-82632 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:56:08 +0000 Flock of smallish bunny fish…

kozyndan_bunnyfish-746811.jpg

]]> 4259b048b81aafaf3e0e1802768e57e9 replied to the topic Binary Code in the forum Design Requests - Find An Artist http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-designs/design-requests-find-an-artist/32755-binary-code/#post-82240 Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:08:20 +0000 Biohazard;61158 wrote:
My brother wants to get a tattoo in binary code. which is 01010100 01110010 01110101 01110100 01101000. He wants it in the shape of a question mark.

Cool – Truth in the form of a question… i like it…

(it is meant to say Truth yea?)

]]> 9a2ee939f3099902b49cf05fd215e016 replied to the topic Dimple piercings. in the forum Pierced Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/pierced-skin/32330-dimple-piercings/#post-81704 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:07:57 +0000 tbh you would be better off finding a new place to work… or just put off getting them until you work at a place where you can have facial piercings…

]]> 069781267fd3fcd732682b86df59628b replied to the topic Wings - Just how much canvas to use? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32572-wings-just-how-much-canvas-to-use/#post-81214 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:29:31 +0000 mugwump;59824 wrote:
I have had a moment of clarity and have developed a plan so cunning i could put a tail on it and call it a weasel! Unfortunately i can draw / photochop to save myself but I now have some alarmingly good reference material for my design including an MRI cat scanny dealie as below

Originally the main reason for the wings…[Read more]

]]> 4c4b719977a12562316a839d0f0b49a2 replied to the topic My new pride and joy... in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/32641-my-new-pride-and-joy/#post-81119 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:33:43 +0000 one of the first baby tatts ive seen that hasnt made me want to vomit! in fact i dig it – ALOT!
only negative comment would be the need for a green block!

Slightly off topic what is the correct name for the black rays bit – ive been googling my arse off trying to find them for a tatt im planning…

Cheers
mugwump

]]> 443880dae61e3cabc52f7a901794233b replied to the topic finfished the poor birdy in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/32630-finfished-the-poor-birdy/#post-81040 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:32:34 +0000 i like it – just the right blend of fucking sweet and fucked up…

]]> b6bf537701eecd7f3f4acdeb239ee20d replied to the topic For butterfly kisses in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/32628-for-butterfly-kisses/#post-81021 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:45:02 +0000 Thats freaken sweet! very nice work / selection of ppl too

love it…

]]> d4140c358e501a396d2200e51d4718da replied to the topic UPDATE: Superman FIX UP TAT- First Session in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/32541-update-superman-fix-up-tat-first-session/page/2/#post-80981 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:26:00 +0000 awesome reworking… Hope im never in the search for a good coverup / reworking artist but im glad to see that they are out there…

can wait to see the rest of it 😉

]]> 42a372a1b3dd137605e97a52df6b3423 replied to the topic New to the forum in New Mexico in the forum Introduce Yourself http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/introduce-yourself/32617-new-to-the-forum-in-new-mexico/#post-80915 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:58:24 +0000 Hi there…

hows it goin?

]]> 48eea48a3a31c44beb432524be00ad5b replied to the topic Wings - Just how much canvas to use? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32572-wings-just-how-much-canvas-to-use/#post-80914 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:46:41 +0000 I have had a moment of clarity and have developed a plan so cunning i could put a tail on it and call it a weasel! Unfortunately i can draw / photochop to save myself but I now have some alarmingly good reference material for my design including an MRI cat scanny dealie as below

Originally the main reason for the wings around the valve is that I…[Read more]

]]> adeb5499b3236eebc2ff1ac951805dc8 replied to the topic My First! in the forum Inked Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/inked-skin/32598-my-first-8/#post-80736 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:21:19 +0000 Looks great! My only comment would be to get a little green fuzzy line under it so its standing on grass as opposed to just being suspended in mid-air (well mid-shoulder)

]]> 5b78f123c85bfcffd7739dbbe2405e10 replied to the topic Religious Sleeve Help! in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32589-religious-sleeve-help/#post-80666 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 07:46:52 +0000 What about something like the Gates of Hell by Rodin? whole bunch of angels / demons dancing around the archway…

nb – saw it in person a few years back in Paris – HOLY CRAP BATMAN!!! epic doesnt begin to describe it…

]]> 2d1c6c7bc2b05ab2d53798124b07bb17 replied to the topic Horizontal toungue piercing help. in the forum Pierced Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/pierced-skin/32571-horizontal-toungue-piercing-help/#post-80587 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:52:22 +0000 MatthewMO;59448 wrote:
Haha yah I guess thats what they say.
Its 16 and its not that bad but its noticable.

16 is a good start for better healing… when you say its noticable – is that to you in your mouth or visible to others when you are talking?

]]> 56ecf85b769a0efca6353cc3a6a53756 replied to the topic Wings - Just how much canvas to use? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32572-wings-just-how-much-canvas-to-use/#post-80586 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:50:47 +0000 Benjaminho;59456 wrote:
i like the idea of calf wings, bit like that greek god, with the golden wings on his shoes, personally my favourite wing design isnt included in your top three, i like more of a battleaxe-head design with the starting point, centered and the wings going up as much as they are going down,

Hermes?

onto the other bit -…[Read more]

]]> 9932718af433a98058ce035b2b0b8abc replied to the topic newbie to the forum... in the forum Introduce Yourself http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/introduce-yourself/32570-newbie-to-the-forum/#post-80566 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:46:19 +0000 Thanks for all the welcomes guys… glad to have found this place…

I’m a mere 4 hours away now…. tick tock tick tock – can you tell im getting impatient?!?

]]> d20542760dfc1a77651f192d8c931183 replied to the topic Wings - Just how much canvas to use? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32572-wings-just-how-much-canvas-to-use/#post-80519 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:01:05 +0000 Joker1;59383 wrote:
Hey mate,
The only reason the wings have that reddish taint is because the photos were taken shortly after the tattoo was done. Nearly all new black and grey tattoos have a reddish-brown tinge to them due to the abuse (lost for a better word) of the skin.
As for the amp, I’m not too sure what it looks like. I’ve got a guitar…[Read more]

]]> 19f14b2abd3d953ba1b4f307399c18c1 replied to the topic Wings - Just how much canvas to use? in the forum General Tattoo Discussion http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/general-tattoo-discussion/32572-wings-just-how-much-canvas-to-use/#post-80517 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:33:02 +0000 Sherav;59380 wrote:
Hi personally for a calf I would go for the down drop wings which can be reduced without too much detail loss if size is an issue.

The up wings would require a wrap to make to do them justice (which you do not want) and the small straight ones always seem a little cartoony or feminine to me (this is just a personal taste…[Read more]

]]> e59d9f912d0108adee1c8b43c5215fb9 replied to the topic newbie to the forum... in the forum Introduce Yourself http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/introduce-yourself/32570-newbie-to-the-forum/#post-80511 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:53:44 +0000 Joker1;59375 wrote:
Yeah in-joke. They’re both Brits, I like to rub it in when another Aussie joins, there’s been a few lately 😉

Ahhh cool… I won’t hold it against them, Afterall they could be from New Zealand…

]]> c23ae4eafe5c34e64608383b137a773e replied to the topic Horizontal toungue piercing help. in the forum Pierced Skin http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/pierced-skin/32571-horizontal-toungue-piercing-help/#post-80509 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:36:08 +0000 how off center is it? what gauge is it?

if you do remove it and the scar tissue doesnt sit well you may be worse off… I’ve seen these before and its NASTY! then again you might be fine and it can turn out great… seen these before too 😉

if its not that bad and you can live with it, do so… nothing in life is perfect why should your piercing…[Read more]

]]> a380cd3b507d7f7c8706b95cb28746aa replied to the topic newbie to the forum... in the forum Introduce Yourself http://www.thetattooforum.com/forums/tattoo-forums/introduce-yourself/32570-newbie-to-the-forum/#post-80506 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:51:00 +0000 Joker1;59368 wrote:
It brings a tear to my eye Sherav, Outlaw 😀

in-joke or did I miss something?!? 😉

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